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I installed Huper 30 on my front truck windows last week. Are all ceramics reflective on the interior or is it just Huper? I'm thinking of bringing this line to our shop but what to get a little more knowledge about ceramics. I currently use LLumar Basic black and ATC. What are your thoughts between CTX and Huper? Thanks and our thoughts and prayers are with those dealing with Sandy...

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TNT you will find C-30 to have a VLR of about 11%. This is in part due to the fact that Huper Optik Ceramic are 100% dye-free so basically we are not covering over the reflective TiN with a dyed layer. Of course that comes with its 'pros' and 'cons'. The pro is that you get a more durable film that is the least reflective dye-free 30% ceramic that has no duplicate on the market due to its patents. The con is that it is slightly more reflective than a dyed ceramic but there is a large consumer base that does not mind the look. :thumb

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I installed Huper 30 on my front truck windows last week. Are all ceramics reflective on the interior or is it just Huper? I'm thinking of bringing this line to our shop but what to get a little more knowledge about ceramics. I currently use LLumar Basic black and ATC. What are your thoughts between CTX and Huper? Thanks and our thoughts and prayers are with those dealing with Sandy...

They are very diferent films to install. If you don't mind the extra cost of the film, extra time required to shrink using low heat to avoid ghosting on rear windows as well as sides that need it, go with the Huper. If you want a more reasonably priced film that is more user friendly but can still earn you upsell dollars keep it simple and use CTX. You may also benefit as the more LLumar you purchase the more coop money you earn each year to help with advertising.

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Seems like the term 'Ceramic' is getting as loosely used as the term 'Nano' these days. Unfortunately, I think the Consumers are even more confused than the installers. I am a Huper Optik dealer in Arizona and I can tell you there is a substantial difference in the Huper Optik Ceramics, but since the term itself applies to multiple applications, it gets real confusing as to why adn when I explain it customers they seem to get that glazed over look in thier eyes before I'm even close to finishing.

In a nutshell, as I understand it, the Huper Optik Ceramics (not sure it is as protected by patents as the Drie Select series, which is from Southwall's windshield technology product) is a high quality material that doesn't use any dyes for coloring and is layers of material (making it thicker) that achieve the low reflectance appearance. As a rule, if it looks black or colored, it usually is. I've seen products branded as 'Ceramic', that are actually only dyed material and / or IR absorbing coated dye material. Manufacturing costs are much less that way.

We represent our products in this order: Standard (non-metal, quality Dyed), IR / Nano (Dyed Material with the Infra-Red absorbing addidtive), Ceramic (true Ceramic construction) and Spectrally Selective Alloys (Southwall patented technology - no equal).

If someone out there has a better way of laying it out I would apprecaite some input, because trying to spell that out on a price sheet is nearly impossible and I am on my third draft as of now.

Good Question, not an easy answer, we could be here all night. LOL

Hugh A. Casiano-Hernandez

Danny's Family Window Tinting

One Armor, Inc.

Scottsdale, Phoenix, Mesa, Gilbert, Chandler, Peoria, Tempe & Paradise Valley, Arizona

(602) 485-8500

www.dannystint.com

www.dannysfamily.com

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We make reference to the term 'nano' in describing the particle size. The smaller the particle, the better the optiks (if you use good PET) depending on how it is deposited to the substrate. Some films have materials > nanometer scale so you really cannot accurately refer to those as 'nano' but anything that is nano scale whether ceramic or otherwise could be marketed as 'nano...whatever.'

All films filter visible light, IR, and UV to varying degrees. They all have varying looks, optical quality, workability, and durability. Huper Optik markets high durability, superb optical, and high performance. It's all rather simple when you get down to it; know your 'must have's', 'know your budget', 'look at samples on glass', 'find a skilled installer', and then make a buying decision... You will reap what you sow are it is all said and done. :twocents

For the record on patents:

Huper Ceramic aka- 'X3' or 'Multilayer' is patented construction.

Huper Drei patented and has no equal that I know of.

Huper C-70 is patent pending.

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