Emigrating from the USA

TintTech · August 29, 2012

Hi Im thinking about moving to Aus from Denver, CO USA. Was wondering if anyone out there is hiring. How are the living costs? Do I need a work visa and is it pretty easy to get one? I've been tinting for 5 years. I can do clear bra as well. Not bumpers. I can also do vehicle wraps. I was working here in CO for a shop that did 90%dealer work. Have worked with 3M/suntek products. I'd like to stay within the bigger cities in Australi. Thanks guys appreciate it!

Fiveofeen · August 29, 2012

Australia is a blast.

You can get a 6 month Visa easy, anything beyond that can be really challenging in Oz. Cost of living is pretty high, I live In San Diego and I'm saying that.

Counterpart · September 1, 2012

Hi Tinttech,

I think it is a good move. I had just returned from surveying the australian market with my friend. He is setting up a distribution center there with a local.

here's my two cents (from my detailed observation during this trip):

The young prefers to work in the WA mines (which pays >$100K a year) and locals find it slightly harder to attract new blood to our trade. The economy might be slowing down but I guess it is the same everywhere else in the world.

There is some sort of Business Dismissal Code which requires employers to give you prior documented warnings (months) + time to adjust and improve (months), monitor (months) and not dismiss you outright even they have to do so

I think Australia is not such a bad place to work in, and there's so some minimum wage guideline.

On last note, if you able to adjust well to life there, try to get citizenship and enjoy some centrelink benefits in the event that you become jobless. All you have to do, is to show some efforts in job application to be eligible.

TintJunkie · September 1, 2012

Devils advocate speaking.....

If you have to come here to ask those questions, you arent ready to move. Unlike the US, AUS requires financial responsibility in order for you to become a citizen there, as, they enforce their laws. You also arent gonna corner any markets there. The Aussies wont take kindly to an American trying to capitalize there.

Tint Wife · September 1, 2012

Australia is a blast.

You can get a 6 month Visa easy, anything beyond that can be really challenging in Oz. Cost of living is pretty high, I live In San Diego and I'm saying that.

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Hi Tinttech,

I think it is a good move. I had just returned from surveying the australian market with my friend. He is setting up a distribution center there with a local.

here's my two cents (from my detailed observation during this trip):

The young prefers to work in the WA mines (which pays >$100K a year) and locals find it slightly harder to attract new blood to our trade. The economy might be slowing down but I guess it is the same everywhere else in the world.

There is some sort of Business Dismissal Code which requires employers to give you prior documented warnings (months) + time to adjust and improve (months), monitor (months) and not dismiss you outright even they have to do so

I think Australia is not such a bad place to work in, and there's so some minimum wage guideline.

On last note, if you able to adjust well to life there, try to get citizenship and enjoy some centrelink benefits in the event that you become jobless. All you have to do, is to show some efforts in job application to be eligible.

Oh that's rich! An outsider telling a potential immigrant how to work the system!

As an Australian I take great offence to that. If you want to come here, be prepared to work for your living, because I resent paying for anyone's benefits whilst I work for my living!

Devils advocate speaking.....

If you have to come here to ask those questions, you arent ready to move. Unlike the US, AUS requires financial responsibility in order for you to become a citizen there, as, they enforce their laws. You also arent gonna corner any markets there. The Aussies wont take kindly to an American trying to capitalize there.

TJ you make a fine devils advocate :thumb

lorenzotint · September 2, 2012

Devils advocate speaking.....

If you have to come here to ask those questions, you arent ready to move. Unlike the US, AUS requires financial responsibility in order for you to become a citizen there, as, they enforce their laws. You also arent gonna corner any markets there. The Aussies wont take kindly to an American trying to capitalize there.

It's a scary thought of an American leaving this country to work in another country...with the exception of retirement. On another note with 5 years exp. and limited PPF you are not going to corner any market in any country.

Devil with bad attitude · September 2, 2012

Devil's advocate speaking...we definately hate dole bludgers....it's not our way of life and suggesting it may be available in case of is a no no.

Devil

TINTZEUS · September 3, 2012

TintTech ..where are or where were you working in Denver? I know many people there. Born and raised in DTown. :thumb

I might be able to hook you up with some nice employment. If not I say go to Australia...learn.. show em what you know and meet some cool people. Job experience is everything. Good luck and keep us posted on what you decide to do.

Counterpart · September 3, 2012

hi TeeDub,

My earlier post are what I heard from my friend's discussion with his partner in Australia. He didn't like the what he heard and gave up the idea of remotely control his operations from Korea. Now he is going to roll up his sleeves and attend to the bigger franchises personally, while the locals take care of the smaller tint shops.

Yes, the labour system may sound flawed but from the bottom of my heart, I felt good about it. I was from a very humble background and I know the sense of insecurity and labor exploitation faced by a lessor educated tinter.

In Korea, my peers worked like mad for a better tomorrow, but that doesn't intrinsically produce happier people. We cannot assume that everyone will eventually be successful. The flight of the lesser-educated Koreans are fundamentally similar to the less-educated Americans or Australians. At least, the rights of honest people who want to make a decent living are the best protected in Australia, imho.

Here's a bit of history. While modern immigrants to Australia are professionals or skilled workers like Tinttech, the earlier immigrants are less-educated Irish, Europeans, British and post-independence - Asian refugees, boat people. (Until today, Australia still helps UN Refugee Program and provides jobs for pacific islanders to repatriate money back) These lower-class workers(including the whites) in the Australian society had a long history of neglect by their former European master, and in later part, conglomerates and government.

If such thing bothers you, don’t run a business or employ anyone in Australia. As a boss, employing a worker is about judgement, nobody points a gun to ask you to hire him in the first place. As a worker, it is about work-attitude. If Tintech or a worker is good, he wouldn't abuse the system. The underlying intention of such protection is good because this is what a developed civilized country do, to prevent the poor from being unfairly marginalized. It is the incompetence of bureaucrats and system that is flawed when it is abused. Anyway, No country is perfect.

You might have misunderstood my words in earlier post. Perhaps, I didn't express myself correctly in English. If Tinttech considers moving, try to visit there and understand better. Asking around is a certainly good start.