Guest popof8 Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 hey techs. I thank you for being so generous with your experience and advice. now I hope you don't mine if I take you back to the beginning. cause I know little to nothing about the business. I have a list of questions to ask and I will appreciate any responses you have. 1. what is claying and when is it used? 2. what is overspraying? 3. does detailing consist of certain tasks or can you include whatever you want? 4. I am thinking of quitting my day job to do this full time. what should I do ofr not do to succeed in the bussiness? 5. is the process order is wash, polish, buff, then wax or buff after wax? 6. do I wax to protect or do it contribute to shinning as well and does polishing have to be done each time before waxing. 7. if there is a certain web site I can go to to get all my answers then direct me to it please. thanks. please hold criticisms to 300 words or less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pike_madcat Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 well okay claying would refer to using a clay bar (mothers makes one) it removes smaller particles of the paints surface...The work but I dont use them.. overspray can found on cars that have had bodywork and repair. What happens is when the car is repainted/sprayed..The body shop didnt do a good job of taping up the car and well "overspray" landed on a area that wasnt getting repaired...it wil feel gritty to the touch... detailing can consist of whatever you conisder being a detaile car. as far as waxing, go ahead and wax a car...no harm or chance of harm really...if you are wanting to buff a car that would be done before waxing it...but if you buffing it out right you really dont need wax, u just use several different grade of compounds... But if you have never buffed a car before than leave it to the professionals...you wouldnt want to burn though someone paint and have to pay to have it redone cause u didnt know what you were doing (take a autobody class if u wanna learn to buff) waxing will help protect the surface of the car...each wax is differnt though some last 6 months some only last a month and well some only last out the door ;) if u really wanna learn this kinda trade find someone who has been in the buisness for several years and learn from them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest popof8 Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 thanks my friend. I think I will stay from buffing for now. it is already enough work to do without it. by the way the name of my business is "WASH WHERE UR". my motto is save your time by using mine. also why dd so many people get out the business? I see so many cars that are in need of tlc. so what is the problem. I just want to know what to look out for. thanks my friend. I think I will stay from buffing for now. it is already enough work to do without it. by the way the name of my business is "WASH WHERE UR". my motto is save your time by using mine. also why dd so many people get out the business? I see so many cars that are in need of tlc. so what is the problem. I just want to know what to look out for. thanks my friend. I think I will stay from buffing for now. it is already enough work to do without it. by the way the name of my business is "WASH WHERE UR". my motto is save your time by using mine. also why dd so many people get out the business? I see so many cars that are in need of tlc. so what is the problem. I just want to know what to look out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WASHBOY Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Dont stay away from it, just learn it. This can add profits to your biz because in this industry you have to up sell your different skills that can be done to the vehicle. You can get paint looking very wet just by doing it by hand. Clean the paint, polish, than wax, and if you feel like making it just look that much better put some sealer on the paint. The way you fail is by the way you work, keep on selling and just know that there will be some hard months ahead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest popof8 Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 ok. I will start searching for some training materials. by the wayl, are there any hands free detergents for washing lightly soiled cars? just trying to cut into the time it takes. I am in the process of setting up continuous work with hotels. I have to work on a flyer for the guest arriving with bugged cars and road dust. it may work out very well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vcreed123 Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Don't quit your job yet, do this on the side until you can establish enough business to sustain yourself. 1) Clay bars: Awesome, I use them all the time and they're great. 2)Buffing: If your afraid of the high speed rotary buy the dewalt DA buffer, you can just about get the same finish with no worry. The secret to the rotary is to KEEP THE CAR WET while your buffing and you'll have no problems. 3)Spend the bucks and buy and mytee carpet extractor, a must have for anyone doing detailing, almost impossible to get the interrior clean without one. 4)Buy quality chemicals, I use automagic chemicals and wouldn't use anything else, they are a bit more expensive but are well worth the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tint_detective Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 hey techs.I thank you for being so generous with your experience and advice. now I hope you don't mine if I take you back to the beginning. cause I know little to nothing about the business. I have a list of questions to ask and I will appreciate any responses you have. 1. what is claying and when is it used? 2. what is overspraying? 3. does detailing consist of certain tasks or can you include whatever you want? 4. I am thinking of quitting my day job to do this full time. what should I do ofr not do to succeed in the bussiness? 5. is the process order is wash, polish, buff, then wax or buff after wax? 6. do I wax to protect or do it contribute to shinning as well and does polishing have to be done each time before waxing. 7. if there is a certain web site I can go to to get all my answers then direct me to it please. thanks. #1 Claybars are used to remove overspray, rail dust and other particulates that become embedded in the paint. Most importantly, wash the car before you use it and use a slip solution, such as soap and water. This keeps the bar from sticking.... #2 Overspray can come from anywhere really, I have done several dozen vehicles at once from a large mfg. plant, they had their water tower painted and the wind carried the overspray onto all the employee cars in the lot..... Clay bared for a solid week.....$$$$ #3 Yes, I would say so, your main task will be.... Clean the phurkin' car.... However you want, just clean it... #4 Don't quit your job, unless you have the clientèle in place and have enough money to sustain you and your biz for a few months, at least... #5 The step by step process will be up to you. Everyone I know does it differently.. #6 Wax after every detail.... Otherwise all your doing is 'washing'.... And no, you do not have to polish every time before waxing..... #7 There are ton of websites out there that sell, turn key, ready to roll systems... Research them, ask questions and choose wisely... I sold my detail shop cause of so many cutthroat punks popping up every summer beating the prices to death... Detailing is a cut throat business, IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest popof8 Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 ok I will not quit yet.or not completely. I have two jobs now. I plan to quit the day job and keep the evening job because I work for a popular hotel where I have gotten alot of clients already. and I am now able to do the guest cars as well. my plan now is to wash cars in the day time before I go to work and while I am at work if I get clients I will wash the guest cars at night when I get off. I have been doing guest cars now for just a week and it is going well. I have gotten insurance and a business tax number. so I am serious about this. my long term goal is to get an automated truck wash stations build so I can slack up the manual labor and not get burned out. there are two major truck stops here and only one business that wash trucks in this city that I know of. I am looking to lease some land close to one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tint_detective Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 ok I will not quit yet.or not completely. I have two jobs now. I plan to quit the day job and keep the evening job because I work for a popular hotel where I have gotten alot of clients already. and I am now able to do the guest cars as well. my plan now is to wash cars in the day time before I go to work and while I am at work if I get clients I will wash the guest cars at night when I get off. I have been doing guest cars now for just a week and it is going well. I have gotten insurance and a business tax number. so I am serious about this. my long term goal is to get an automated truck wash stations build so I can slack up the manual labor and not get burned out. there are two major truck stops here and only one business that wash trucks in this city that I know of. I am looking to lease some land close to one of them. Sounds like you've got a good plan... I like the idea of cleaning hotel guest cars.... Nice idea... P.S. Please post your location in your profile..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP tint + glass Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 dont high speed buff until you are completely used to it. everything else is fairly easy, but you can burn through paint with the high speed. practice with your car or dont even offer the high speed service. around here nobody highspeeds except the paint shops and I dont blame them. check to see how many detailers there are in your area, then think if you can compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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