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Hey,

I wanted to rant and praise both.....for the last 8 years I have been doing window tinting as my sole living. I started doing flat glass 8 years ago. Until last month I had not used any flat glass films other than Sungards with DPS! I recently have used Johnson, Madico, and Suntek flat glass films. I also just learned a few months ago about reverse rolling flat glass films and dropping it.

I had a conversation with my old Sungard sales rep and I asked him why they didn't make a dry adhesive. He proceeded to tell me that they did and it was the DPS...I posted about that before....anyway, I tried back rolling some of the DPS and it did work....sort of....but now that I have actually used some dry adhesives I don't ever want to go back.

Getting the thick goop that is the DPS coating to look right with just a wetting of the window and a drop roll is not as easy......

Anyway, HEY CAPT BILL! tell me why Sungard doesn't make a dry adhesive? I spent so many hours doing so much more work than I had to and needing an extra hand to hold the film while I peeled the liner and wet it.....I just can't imagine why you don't make a dry adhesive.....get rid of the DPS crutch and make a real flat glass film.....

Anyway... :evilgrin:poke:poke

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nice post of your experience there mate.

but let it be known this post is not bashing a specific company. its just an experience you had. I just love Hanita's dry adhesive films. they're great to work with :evilgrin

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not bashing the company.....just questioning why they do what they do with the adhesives.

I was just blind to anything else and I was very loyal to them for 7 years....but then I had lots of issues build up over time and I said goodbye....still working out some flat glass stock, but I have been off the auto for almost a year now....

llumar ATR and I will not complain about the price. Save time on every job because it is easier to work with....besides I get more for a car without the front doors or strip on them than I find most in Indiana are getting for the whole car....but I also found that I am 50% less than a fairly close shop in Effingaham IL the other day....

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DPS= Training Wheels for Window Film

8 yrs of flat glass and you just figured out reverse rolling? :beer

I gotta hand it to you, your post is very restrained. I'd be posting in all caps... :klingon

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but now that I have actually used some dry adhesives I don't ever want to go back.

+1,000,000,000

Maybe if I worked with someone it wouldn't be bad, but as a solo-guy I just can't see using a PS type film day in and day out. It would drive me nuts.

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PS, DPS, Dry....whatever.

As long as it goes onto the window.

What I'm more concerned about is how the squeegee glides on the SR coating. Some you can squeegee with very little solution on it, others it will catch like crazy if it's not soaking wet!

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PS, DPS, Dry....whatever.

As long as it goes onto the window.

What I'm more concerned about is how the squeegee glides on the SR coating. Some you can squeegee with very little solution on it, others it will catch like crazy if it's not soaking wet!

which films are those sticky ones? I have used Johnson, Sungard, and Llumar on auto, and Johnson, Sungard, Suntek, and Madico on flat.....not had any issues with this.

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