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Mdog · July 8, 2003

black guy spouting off can say whatever he wants :nope howard cosell got in the wringer for talk like this.

Posted 7/7/2003 11:52 PM Updated 7/8/2003 2:50 AM

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Baker stands by heat comments

By Chuck Johnson, USA TODAY

Chicago Cubs manager Dusty Baker, dismissing suggestions he made a racist assertion when speaking with reporters about day baseball, stands by his comments that black and Hispanic players are better suited to playing in the sun and heat than white players.

Cubs manager Dusty Baker didn't back down from his comments, but he also won't address it any further after this.

By Aynsley Floyd, AP

"I'm not playing the race card. I'm telling it like it is," Baker said by telephone Monday.

"What I meant is that blacks and Latins take the heat better than most whites, and whites take the cold better than most blacks and Latins. That's it, pure and simple. Nothing deeper than that."

Harry Edwards, a sports sociologist who served on the faculty at the University of California-Berkeley for 30 years, called the comments "unfortunate and not totally informed" but said they weren't malicious.

"Dusty and I go back a long way, and Dusty by no means is enamored with ethnic or racial stereotypes," Edwards said. "If we didn't have a race issue in this country, that statement would have little or no consequence. But we do have a race issue."

Baker, whose Cubs play a majority of their home games in the daytime, made his comments Saturday.

"It's easier for most Latin guys and it's easier for most minority people because most of us come from heat," Baker said. "You don't find too many brothers in New Hampshire and Maine and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. ... We were brought over here for the heat, right? Isn't that history? Weren't we brought over because we could take the heat?"

Tony Bernazard, a former major leaguer from Puerto Rico who is special assistant for the players union, didn't think anything was wrong with the comments.

"It's somebody's opinion," Bernazard said. "I don't think anybody can accuse Dusty Baker of being a racist because Dusty Baker is not a racist."

Baker's comments were ripe fodder for the talk shows Monday. Some charged that a white manager would be under fire if he made similar statements.

"If a white manager made those statements, there's no question he would find himself in a group that includes Al Campanis and Jimmy 'The Greek' Snyder," Edwards said.

Baker, one of four African-Americans among seven minority managers in the major leagues, agrees. "But as a black manager, I can say things about blacks that a white manager can't say, and whites can say things about whites that blacks can't say."

Baker said he won't address the issue any further. "People have accused me of being sensitive, but maybe they're too sensitive," he said. "I'm not elaborating on it any more. End of topic. I said what I mean."

Mdog · July 8, 2003

I am sick of loud mouth blacks.....there I said it.

July 8, 2003

How well will Dusty handle THIS heat??? :nope

July 8, 2003

Nothings going to happen to him.......NOW if it was John Rocker saying this , all hell would have broke loose by now!

TintDude · July 9, 2003

only whites can be racists, black and hispanics can r*pe and kill whites, but there hasn't been one "hate crimes" case brought against them.

Mdog · July 9, 2003

yep and that SUCKS, shack can say what he wants also because he is a "funny guy"

oldtinter · July 9, 2003

...and Dusty's Black relief pitcher gives up 2 runs to lose the game ..THEN he brings in the white boy who has no problem with 5 hitters, mowing them down easily...Splain that one Mahatma Baker... :nope

July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

I don't think the comment was racist nor would I think so if a white mgr. said it either. It was more of an observational statement.

If you come from the heat like most blacks and latinos do then you are more acclimated to the conditions of hot phuckin' weather period. Same can be said about any white kid born and raised in Phoenix.

I come from one of the hottest/humid regions in the U.S. and I can't stand it when I hear people bitching about the heat when the temperature is something like 87-degrees with partly cloudy skies.

TintDude · July 9, 2003

the point was cosell was branded as a rasist for saying something similar, whether it's true or not the point is the dispairity as how these comments are treated depending on the skin color of the person comenting.